Return on Empathy (ROE)

Return on Empathy (ROE), hosted by Rebecca Dhrimaj, is a leadership podcast for changemakers across all roles and industries—from the front lines to the C-suite—that confronts the critical blind spot of traditional performance metrics (ROI), which fail to measure how work is truly experienced and what it costs the people doing it. When leaders lack visibility into the emotional impact of decisions, critical warning signs—like unspoken risks and employee silence—go underground until something breaks. Featuring candid conversations with leaders across industries, ROE explores leading with empathy as a form of intelligence to detect risk earlier, make better decisions, and build organizations that endure by energizing, rather than depleting, their people. Note: This series is an evolution of our original podcast, E3: Engage and Empower with Empathy, representing a deeper focus on the measurable impact of empathy as decision intelligence. *The ROE podcast is dedicated to the late Bob Chapman, former CEO and Chairman of Barry-Wehmiller and co-author of Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family.*